Frank says that an anonymous commenter "utterly demolished" me in the comments section of my previous post. The anonymous commenter had this to say:
LOL! No, I think the question is which would you choose? And you admitted you would rather live in a nudist colony which would include nude kids, ya friggin moron! You admitted it that you'd prefer that, correct? The lesson Frank was teaching you was how many "glib" remarks you make. You finally said something stupid which you obviously regret saying. And now Frank won't allow you to explain yourself so you wouldn't do damage control. Get it, porno boy? Frank owned you. And it's mighty funny how angry you are. I bet a zillion dollars if a 16 year old was enticing you, you'd have sex with her if you could get away with it. And you never refuted the fact that you'd be against underage marriages given your radical libertarian nature. If you allow homosexual marriages why not underage one's? You don't want government to get in the way now, do you?
Frank Walton expanded on the same accusation:
Frank Walton said...
Thank you anonymous (12:12 AM, March 21, 2007) for your comment! Indeed, Aaron has just dug his own grave. I find it interesting, Aaron, that you openly admitted that you would rather live in a nudist colony than a burkhatown. Now, I'm not saying you're a pedophile. However, like a pedophile you think children are better off naked rather than them covering up in a burkha! People like you make it too easy for me.
But I am the one who gets the last laugh, thanks to my esteemed colleague Olly who "utterly demolished" anonymous with his own comment, and consequently pre-demolished Frank's latest accusation before he even posted it:
Frank himself is railing against the sexualization of children, and he's absolutely right, sexualizing children is immoral -- but the problem lies not in the nudity itself, but in the perception of what nudity means in our society. Nudity = Sex in Western Culture because Christianity and other religions hold the human body in such shame. There are many cultures in the world where nudity is not directly associated with sex.
You Christian's really want to eradicate these things you see as immoral? How about working towards a more progressive society, that sees nudity much more naturally and clinically; it's precisely because you object so much, and make it into such a taboo, that nudity at any age is all of a sudden an issue.
Again, I'll speak slowly here so you can understand me, nudity does not equal sexuality, unless YOU YOURSELF equate it that way.
Olly for the win! I couldn't have said it better myself.
It's a shame that Frank is so blissfully unaware that he is shooting baskets after the game ended. I feel kind of bad for him, especially since his latest post makes ample use of big, bold, italicized fonts - a sure sign that he is too sure of himself and his argument (or is that a sign of him "losing it"?).
I wonder how Frank would respond to a Muslim's charge of perversion due to his lack of support for headscarves, or for that matter, burkhas? Frank is completely unable to see the point that I am trying to make when I use the nudism/burkha dichotomy.
Do I want to live in a nudist colony, period? No. Would I rather live in a nudist colony than in burkhatown? Yes. Are nudists pedophiles? No. Indeed, many nudist colonies legally exist in the US today where entire families, including children, peacefully exercise their nudism.
Another fact worth pointing out is that pedophilia is not known to be rampant among nudists, yet pedophilia is known to be a problem for the clergy. I also think that law-abiding nudists would be rather offended by Frank's accusations. After all, Frank's accusations apply even more to those who actively advocate and practice nudism than to myself, who merely said that I would prefer the extreme of nudism to the extreme of burkhas.
My original argument was about gender-based disparity in decency standards, and Frank wanted to strawman me into some pedophilia argument. I actually took the bait, got censored by him, and I still won thanks in large part to Olly, who shot Frank down before he got off the runway.
But one question in my head still remains. You see, so far I'm the only one to answer the "nudist colony or burkhatown?" question. I think Frank should answer it, as well as his Christian supporters.