The Vatican says sexually active homosexuals and those who support "gay culture" are unwelcome in the priesthood unless the candidate has overcome homosexual tendencies for at least three years, according to a church document posted on the Internet by an Italian Catholic news agency.
This of course is no suprise. Although I do think its rather strange to see the Vatican constantly condemn and reject homosexuals on paper, yet they shuffle around and protect homosexual Priests in practice. Most likely because those in charge of managing the Priest population are likely gay themselves.
And it would seem that I am correct:
Estimates of the number of gays in U.S. seminaries and the priesthood range from 25 percent to 50 percent, according to a review of research by the Rev. Donald Cozzens, a former seminary rector and author of "The Changing Face of the Priesthood."
Wow. 25 to 50 percent. How do they think they are going to enforce such rules, especially when the assigned enforcers are likely gay too? According to many organizations and groups, including SNAP, the Philadelphia District Attorney, and the Church's own lawyers, nobody is kicking anybody out for being gay. All they do is shuffle the Priests around and protect them from legal persecution when they commit pedophilic rape. Also consider that they are facing a severe Priest shortage and need all the recruits they can get. They will take the concept of "don't ask, don't tell" to a whole new level. It boggles my mind to think how many self-hating homosexuals must be in the Priesthood.
The Catholic Church needs to destroy itself to save itself. Scratch that. It just needs to destroy itself, period. How can the Church do that, you ask? Simple: Just keep doing what it's doing right now. If they actually start enforcing this anti-gay rule, however, it will surely collapse much faster. I can't wait to see it crumble to dust. I really hope it implodes within my lifetime. Die you Goddamn Church, die.
Crossposted at Goosing the Antithesis.
I have read 4-10%, but this is hella crazy (sorry for the Cali slang, but the pun works). Maybe being a priest forces a man to evolve into a homosexual? No, it doesn't, but I am tempted to use this argument with a Catholic.
Seriously, it comforts me to know that "intrinsically disordered" people can be "treated with compassion and dignity." Praise Jesus, the gayest person in history.
Actually, I laughed at your post today. I found it to be quite amusing. I, myself wouldn't mind seeing the Vatican or the Catholic church implode.
I know that sounds terrible, but look at these statistics. Sure makes one wonder, that's for sure.
Uberkuh my friend, I think you may have your stats mixed.
4-10% is the ratio of priests that have committed homosexual pedophilic molestation of minors (According to Church lawyers, the ratio is 3-5% but outside organizations have estimated 4-10%).
The 25-50% is for Priests that are gay but stick to adults and dont mess with children.
That's the percentage (x%), not the ratio (x:y)... which means of course that I have totally disproved your entire argument.
Thanks for pinpointing that stat.
Oh wait... now Im all confused about terminology here.
I may have said ratio but I meant percentage. In regards to this particular blog post, all I know is that Rev. Donald Cozzens is claiming a 25-50% gay Priesthood.
Do you have any source for the 4-10% you mentioned? You DID mean percentage in your statement, right?
As an insomniac, please note that I might drop dead any minute from exhaustion, and please forgive me if I make not a bit of sense. Are we arguing over something? I thought I was making fun of Catholics. Can I just make fun of Catholics? I am too tired to argue. You can trade percentages for ratios all you like. :)
No Uberkuh we arent arguing! LOL you must be tired. We are just having fun with numbers!
I think you and I both agree on my main point: The Catholic Church is evil, sick, and poisoned from top to bottom and should die. Right? :)
Right! Vatican City is its own country (the smallest, in fact) for God's sake.
Maybe being a priest forces a man to evolve into a homosexual?
No, but it may force a naturally gay man (or a naturally straight man, for that matter) to evolve into an emotionally twisted, hypocritical, and duplicitous sexual freak.
The absolutely least qualified people in the world to speak on matters of sexual morality are these damaged souls who have never had a single honest and open intimate relationship in their lives. Yet they keep opening their mouths and spouting their "infallible" nonsense.
Maybe being a priest forces a man to evolve into a homosexual?"
Have you gone Lamarckian on us, Uberkuh? :P
I say if the Catholic Church implodes, we atheists should get the Vatican. We need a country, and St. Peter's is damn beautiful. We could could turn it into a Temple to Reason, just like in the French Revolution! ;)
I second Tanooki Joe's suggestion :D
The Vatican is the oldest old folk's institution in the world, administrated by senile old folks who can't differentiate between a virgina and a penis.
God damn it, how these hypocrites managed to last for almost two millennia is truly beyond me.
to your tomorrow's birthday I wish you all property
I make that today already, since I tomorrow am unfortunately not there
I say we take the Vatican and turn it into... (drum roll please)... The Museum of Egomania, Hypnoscamming, Controlfreakism, and Greed. And, wouldn't it be a nice world if the all-important, "Think-of-the" children had to go to a museum to learn of such things? It would mean that socety had been de-flaked, to that extent at least.
As for the Vatican being small, I think it's still too big. I would like to see the Pope reduced to a country that was about 12" in diameter, concave, and roughly 1/3 cu. ft. in volume. In other words, I'd leave him a pot to piss in.
I welcome any and all Vati-canians to join me in a coup to supplant theistic tomfoolery and plant atheistic ambitions in the heart of Rome.
In a post about the gays in the Catholic Church, you used the phrase "from top to bottom."
Just having to look at Pope Benedict's photo and reading his incessant rants is enough to give me an anti-climax.
What the Vatican needs is sex. Yes. Good ole sex. Those old folks there are sexually deprived. They need to interact more with their fellow sisters in Christ. After all, the bible commands them to be "fruitful and multiply".
Oh sure, maybe they are too old to get it up, but hell, there's viagra, and if they die after taking the blue pills, at least they would have had an orgasmic experience before meeting the ir Creator.
I wonder what percentage of Nuns in the Catholic Church are sexually active? How many straight? How many lesbian? They dont seem to get in as much trouble as the males do.
Aaron my beloved Son (do you still love me, Child?) I know the kenning the Catholic Church -- these homo beasts will do anything to invade your succulent confines. These judaeofaggots take their orders from their supreme Lord, Jesus Monkey Christ, the Heilige Homosexist and pilferer of young and old boys of Judaea, Samaria, and the Decapolis. I observed sexual transgression between the fool Christ and the untermenschen John with mine eye. Fool Christ. He is dead now. The torments have only just begun.
YOu have to admit, whatever further limits the preist pool is a good thing. The more people they toss out of the church is a good thing.
It's only a pity there aren't atheist outreaches.
"Thou art Peter... and unto thee I give the keys to the Kingdom of heaven, and the gates of hell shall not pravail against it."
only solution nuke vatican!there wont be a mosquito to bite u aftr tat!
Eh, though I disagree on destroying the Church (perhaps a Great Purge by the rationals would be sufficient), I agree with BEAST that they need more sex. Heck, they should pull masturbation off the list of sins. At least they won't be forced to vent their unquenched desires on little boys and such. It does say in that Book of theirs, "It is better to marry than to burn [with repressed urges]."
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