tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post112475077278500665..comments2024-03-27T00:15:41.321-07:00Comments on Kill The Afterlife: Rudolph the Redneck Christian TerroristAaron Kinneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12059982934663353474noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1135094722019016932005-12-20T08:05:00.000-08:002005-12-20T08:05:00.000-08:00Although I agree with almost everything you say, I...Although I agree with almost everything you say, I began thinking a bit (as I read your post) about the idea that the mentally ill join Christian churches because it's one place they're (sometimes) accepted. So if a MI person joins a god church, they bomb abortion clinics and bash gays. If they're atheists, they bomb other buildings and bash other people. We need to turn to Goddess religions, in which case we'd be loving and caring for our mentally ill the way they need to be cared for -- and they wouldn't be out on the streets strewing damage everywhere.Athanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02037246663178726395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1126100251390406262005-09-07T06:37:00.000-07:002005-09-07T06:37:00.000-07:00There are wholly non-theistic and morally consiste...There are wholly non-theistic and morally consistent arguments against abortion that have nothing to do with a soul, but rather have to do with the conception of when a fetus gains human rights. There are many non-theistic anti-abortionists of various flavors (although they do seem to be vastly outnumbered by the theists). Being anti-theist does not automatically make you pro-choice, and certainly not pro-unrestrained choice. <BR/><BR/>Also, you stated:<BR/><BR/>"History has shown that when individual humans are afforded more individual responsibility and self-determination, society benefits as a result."<BR/><BR/>and...<BR/><BR/>"Self-determination, and the recognition of individual rights, always yields superior results to the alternative path: letting someone else make your choices for you."<BR/><BR/>Such broad and definitive statements absolutely demands challenge. Following the logic of your statement, society would best be served by adoption of anarchy as a governmental form. And yet, anarchy has historically not been considered a stable, prosperous form of social interaction; when it has existed (typically in the leading edge of fronteir societies or shortly after wars or disasters) it is quickly supplanted by more stable forms of society based on societal contracts of various forms. Indeed, the social contract through which the people give up some rights in return for protection of other rights is often considered one of the more important societal benefits in the history of man. Even Robert Heinlein, one of the people who popularized the notion of extreme libertarianism, recognized that it would not be a stable societal structure. While the recognition of <B>limited</B> human rights has led to the wonderful things you mentioned, the elimination of all restrictions on conduct has always led to the formation of a new social contract limiting those rights to some extent. As this is the central thesis of your argument, it is not persuasive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1125288030296922752005-08-28T21:00:00.000-07:002005-08-28T21:00:00.000-07:00Are any of these 'pro-lifers' also opposed to capi...Are any of these 'pro-lifers' also opposed to capital punishment and the wholly unjustified sanctions/bombing/invasion of Iraq (and warfare in general)? I have yet to hear any of them comment on either of these two issues - such hypocrites!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1124906636753747162005-08-24T11:03:00.000-07:002005-08-24T11:03:00.000-07:00Hey Dawson, thanks for the info! Yes I was thinkin...Hey Dawson, thanks for the info! Yes I was thinking about the BTK guys history with the Church and the Boy Scouts, etc... and how he called his victims "projects" or "cases" or something like that.<BR/><BR/>Totally sick. I wonder if he should be considered a Christian terrorist or just a Christian serial killer?Aaron Kinneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12059982934663353474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1124844489914546662005-08-23T17:48:00.000-07:002005-08-23T17:48:00.000-07:00Aaron, I don't think your article about Rudolph is...Aaron, I don't think your article about Rudolph is irrelevant to the overall topic of your blog. Rudolph's anti-life actions are a consequence and expression of his worldview, which involve the wish-fantasy of an afterlife. Those who think there's a life waiting on layaway after this life, can only cheapen any value they have for this life and anyone in it, to the degree that they take such ideas seriously. <BR/><BR/>Another relevant case, in case you didn't catch the details, is conviction and subsequent sentencing of Dennis Rader, the so-called BTK serial killer (BTK stands for 'bind, torture and kill', which were this monster's standard m.o.). This savage murderer was not only a Boy Scout leader, but also president of a Lutheran congregation. <BR/><BR/>You can read about this sicko on <A HREF="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=a8d56piTnZ58" REL="nofollow">Bloomberg news</A>. There is even a <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader" REL="nofollow">Wikipedia entry</A> on him.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>DawsonBahnsen Burnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11030029491768748360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1124830174969404712005-08-23T13:49:00.000-07:002005-08-23T13:49:00.000-07:00Thanx guys! Yea I admit that abortion and Eric Rud...Thanx guys! <BR/><BR/>Yea I admit that abortion and Eric Rudolph is a little off topic, but I just couldnt resist. That Rudolph guy makes me really upset, and the fact that nobody in America calls him what he really is: A CHRISTIAN TERRORIST. It had to be said somewhere. <BR/><BR/>Abortion and conception lossely aqnd faintly tie in with afterlife belief because it deals with souls and when life/consciousness starts, and since Ive dealt with the issue of souls in past posts, I figured it was just related enough to warrant posting on my blog.Aaron Kinneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12059982934663353474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1124812826132514532005-08-23T09:00:00.000-07:002005-08-23T09:00:00.000-07:00Good post AK. I've always hated the pro-life labe...Good post AK. I've always hated the pro-life label, mostly because I know it gets many ignorant supporters who don't understand that just because people call it pro-life, doesn't mean that we've all agreed that it is pro-life. They want to be good people and help humanity, but unforunately are too stupid to look into the details, and as a result are tricked into doing something that harms society.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708796218860983185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11975474.post-1124773950727937162005-08-22T22:12:00.000-07:002005-08-22T22:12:00.000-07:00Nice post AK. I agree 100 %. It's a little off t...Nice post AK. I agree 100 %. It's a little off topic, but your post made me think of the immaculate conception. The idea that Mary's egg was fertilized by God who then gave birth to himself (while the Holy Ghost was jerking off in the corner, I suppose). It is fustrating that amazing, proof-of-existence miracles abounded back then, and all we would need now is one more miracle to clear everything up.<BR/><BR/>I keep coming back to "Why don't the Christians see their religion for what it is?" Everytime I think of stuff like this that seems to be yet another nail in god's coffin, Christians just pass it off as though I'm the one who is blind because I fail to see. And they always know somehow that it was God's will or what not. How do they always know the mind of God when I still question his mere existence and have been doing so for longer than many of them have been alive? And they have the nerve to say atheists are arrogant. Yeah, and the media is liberal. Stupid is not a way of life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com